Posts by New Worldly Translation

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Hi! I'm Elsewhere's cousin!

by Roxi in

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i don't think i've ever posted here, in ten years of being out of the religion.

well, i won't be able to say that again.

anyway, elsewhere and i just "met" online today, even though we've actually been cousins for a few decades.

New Worldly Translation

Hi Roxi!

Welcome to JWD, it's cool to have Elsewhere's cousin join us. We need someone to keep him in line

I've now got songs from Chicago going through my head after typing your username

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we often talk about the best films that we have seen but what about the opposite, what were some films that really disappointed you either at the cinema or at home watching them from a dvd (or vhs though that got outdated now)?

one film i found very boring was the "horse whisperer".

New Worldly Translation

I think the worst film I ever watched was Showgirls. It was so excrutiatingly bad I couldn't stop watching so I could hear another piece of hokey dialogue (not for the nudity like you might think )

One film I've never understood why people like it so much is A Fish Called Wanda. I felt really disappointed after seeing it cos all the telly mags gave it 5 stars and I like Cleese and Palin but it was just rubbish.

Mission Impossible 2 was pretty dreadful too. Oh and Pret a porter too, that was crap.

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So how are JW's doing in 2006?

by SickofLies in

ok, so i had to go to the meeting last sunday and i was bored out of my mind, but i put this together while i was there and it is based on the latest figures for 2005, i though some here would find it interesting.. .

in the 2006 year book the following figures are reported: (note these are for 2005).

branches of jw's: 112. number of lands reporting: 235. total congregations: 98,268. world wide memorial attendance: 16,383,333. memorial partakers worldwide: 8,524. avg.

New Worldly Translation

Justitia, I was thinking the same thing too about them saying they were no longer focusing on figures and it was a 'new light'.

Either that or they'll say it's part of a sifting work and the bad weeds were being seperated from the good wheat before the end.

Hey Justitia we'd better keep quiet cos we're giving them ideas!

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So how are JW's doing in 2006?

by SickofLies in

ok, so i had to go to the meeting last sunday and i was bored out of my mind, but i put this together while i was there and it is based on the latest figures for 2005, i though some here would find it interesting.. .

in the 2006 year book the following figures are reported: (note these are for 2005).

branches of jw's: 112. number of lands reporting: 235. total congregations: 98,268. world wide memorial attendance: 16,383,333. memorial partakers worldwide: 8,524. avg.

New Worldly Translation

I've been waitting for the year when there is negative worldwide growth. How's the org gonna explain that!

They'll probably send 20 missionaries to Vanuatu which has about 2 witnesses so it adds 1000% growth to the figures.

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Celebreties and Jehovah's Witnesses

by Roddy in

i heard from jw rumors many years ago that entertainers such as john denver and gloria estefan didn't like jws very much.

i simply accepted the info at the time and moved on.

i'm just wondering if any of this is true or is just unsubstantiated babble.. i'm also curious if any of you know of how other celebreties weighed-in on the subject of jws either pro or con.

New Worldly Translation

I used to get told that Bing Crosby hated the JW's and used to chase them of his estate with a shotgun when they tried to witness to him.

A friend of my mums who was a JW used to be Michael Caine's housekeeper some years ago and he used to ask about her religion but disagreed with pretty much all of it. I've heard him make a few remarks on chat shows that weren't specifically about JW's but given his knowledge of the JW's I think they were pointed that way. One time he mentioned "he couldn't understand why some religious people live their lives as if it was a rehearsal for something else in the future - this is it, make the best of it". He also mentioned he disagreed with forcing your religious views on somebody else and people who did it should find something better to do.

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ANOTHER KIND OF "PYRAMID INCH"!

by Terry in

open, if you will, the book of history with me and flip back the dusty pages of time to an earlier world; a more innocent era; a time and place where the innocent intellect is ripe .

for razzle dazzle.

there is no internet, alas!

New Worldly Translation

Good essay Terry, thanks for posting it.

I have to agree with Trevor on the points he makes too. I don't think the 607 date is the achilles heal of the org we'd like it to be or the tipping point for the vast majority of JW's.

You're a very intelligent guy Terry and for people like you and a lot of people on the board scholarly subjects like this are very important but I think you over-estimate the intellectual capacities of the majority of JW's.

IMO the vast majority of JW's are uneducated to the point of ignorance but extremely self satisfied with their 'special' knowledge. Ironically they think they are open minded and that they 'test out' the information they are given but it's an illusion as the only references they use are from the same source. Any opinion that conflicts with that 'special' viewpoint is obviously wrong.

Also the society has been quiet about dates specifically ever since the generation change in '95. If you mentioned 607, 1919 or even 1914 to the 1.5 million who have become JW's in the last 10 years or so you'd get a blank expression and they'd struggle to explain the significance of those dates.

As has been mentioned the majority of JW's leave the org because of personal issues. There aren't many who leave on doctrinal issues because they're too weak intellectally and emotionally through being cuckolded by a selfish organisation who they fear displeasing.

Where I think the 607 issue is very useful is for those who have been JW's for some years and remember the 50's, 60's and 70's, and for whom '75 still leaves a bitter taste, when predictions, numeric charts and more indepth articles on subjects like this were being published and were given great importance.

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Investment Paradigm

by startingover in

http://www.exmormon.org/whylft26.htm

New Worldly Translation

Yeah sounds familiar doesn't it. Like the author of the article I always wondered why the WTBS was so against secular books & knowledge and doing your own research on subjects - Truth can stand on it's own after all. Remember that article in a watchtower that said you don't need to look too closely into the bible religious history etc cos the WTBS had done it for us.

It felt horrible to have my world view stripped from me so completely

I think that statement is very true. When you discover the truth about JW's or Mormons it's like waking from a dream that you thought was real and the new world you find yourself in can be a confusing place.

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Oh, you Brits !!!!

by JH in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/4831180.stm

nation's knicker secrets revealed .

one in 10 people wear their underwear for three days in a row, a peep into the nation's smalls has revealed.

New Worldly Translation

Looks like West Midlanders are a pretty whiffy bunch!

I put a new pair of underpants on every day, only trouble is I can't get my trousers on by the end of the week.

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star wars series

by candidlynuts in

sounds like its still a couple years away but hopefuly it'll be good!!.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4808746.stm.

star wars series to run and run george lucas has been working on the fourth indiana jonesthe tv series spin-off of the stars wars film franchise will run to at least 100 episodes, according to producer rick mccallum.

New Worldly Translation

In the article they forgot to mention about that cartoon series Droids with C3PO and R2D2 "Master Mungo! Master Mungo!". I used to like that as a kid.

Maybe they should have done a series based on the Knights Of The Old Republic computer game. That played a lot like a series of story lines.

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Is there depression in the new system???

by hallelujah in

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cause there's certainly depression in the wt world.

dan

New Worldly Translation

I'd certainly be depressed when I saw all the crap that needed clearing up after 'armageddon'

On a similar point though humans have a whole spectrum of emotions ranging from anxiety to elation, anger to serenity. Some of the greatest works of art and literature have emerged from some of the darker emotions and feelings of desperation. Like the old adage says; overcoming difficulties builds character.

I can imagine the 'new world' as a characterless environment full of people who while superficially contented are unfulfilled.